Comments on: Toolbar Page Rank versus Live Page Rank

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:37:20 +0000

Page rank is entirely based on inbound links. A small site with tons of links to it will have a high PR, and a large, high traffic site that has few links will have a low PR.

That’s one of the reasons that PR isn’t that important. It’s one factor in search engine optimization, but not the most important. It is the most visible, though.

By: Juggling Frogs

Juggling Frogs — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:12:21 +0000

Or simply, “you exist.”

For years, I’ve been surfing the web without caring about the pagerank. As a surfer, I never understood it. It didn’t matter at all.

Suddenly, after a couple of months of blogging, I’m noticing it on everyone’s sites. I still don’t understand how it’s calculated.

I know it’s a proprietary algorithm, but I’d expect to have some feel for which sites would have a higher page rank. I’m often surprised at smallish-seeming sites with a PR of 8 or 9, or well established, high content sites with lots of traffic that hang out around 2 or 3.

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:31:27 +0000

It does, doesn’t it. Almost like Google stops by your blog and says, “This is a nice place”.

By: Juggling Frogs

Juggling Frogs — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:22:57 +0000

That’d be wonderful. I know it isn’t supposed to mean much, but it feels like a grade in school.

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:32:16 +0000

Jay wrote:

I’m also at zero, having started 2.5 months ago. I’d be happy for anything non-zero, I think.

I’d say you’re guaranteed to get something non-zero with the next update, with whatever links you’d naturally accumulate by networking.

By: Juggling Frogs

Juggling Frogs — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:38:36 +0000

I’m going to guess ‘2′.

I’m also at zero, having started 2.5 months ago. I’d be happy for anything non-zero, I think.

By: Gaje Master

Gaje Master — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:06:41 +0000

I didn’t know if this contest is still on but since you haven’t updated it, I am guessing that it is. My guess would be a 4PR . I am going to laugh if it is higher. It probably will be but for playing sake, I am going to stick to it. I don’t really know of a suggestion to a prize so I am going to leave this up to you and everyone else.

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 30 May 2007 11:22:55 +0000

Jay wrote:

My guess is 5. As for the prize, since it’s all about PR, maybe a link to the winners.

I thought about that, but wasn’t sure how that would be different than the winners doing a review and getting a backlink that way. Maybe the winners would get a link in a post designed to increase their relevancy for a given keyword, rather than lumped together in a review page?

I also considered putting the winners into a working group for a case study on developing a site for monetization, but not everyone will have the free time to put the energy into it.

If I was running ads I’d share revenue among the winners for the next quarter. But without ads that’s a bit meaningless.

Jay

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 30 May 2007 11:18:59 +0000

Ronald, you’re right, in the interest of fairness I should have added that toolbar PR *is* used as part of estimating the value of your site to an advertiser for such services as TLA, ReviewMe, Pay Per Post, etc.

But that’s only because we can’t get at live PR, which is really the metric advertisers would use if they could. Traffic stats come closer to doing this than toolbar PR, and are also used by some advertisers in conjunction with toolbar PR.

By: Ronaldo Camacho

Ronaldo Camacho — Wed, 30 May 2007 05:37:55 +0000

My guess is 5. As for the prize, since it’s all about PR, maybe a link to the winners.

Toolbar PR actually has a use: I remember reading that TLA and ReviewMe use a minimum PR as one of the requirements to accept new publishers.